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missing Sub Workflows on website [message #34916] Thu, 12 July 2007 11:18 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: echchad.gmx.de

Hi
I hope my question will not be deleted again. Ok anyway,my Problem is that
I made some reference Workflows and some Sub Workflows that are linked via
the extends-function to the reference workflows. I can see the activity
diagrams of the sub workflows using epf but navigating from the reference
workflow to the subs on the website gives me just a list of task
descriptors. Someone told me that variability is not possible with
Capability Patterns, I don't know if this is also meant but I could see
the subs on the website when I used older versions of EPF.
I found out that the page with the activity diagram of the subworkflow is
published but another one without is linked in the reference workflow.
Is there any solution for this problem.
Thanks in advance.
Abdelilah Echchad
Re: missing Sub Workflows on website [message #35331 is a reply to message #34916] Tue, 17 July 2007 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peter Haumer is currently offline Peter Haumer
Messages: 228
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Can you provide the exact steps of what you are doing? You can use
contributes and replace with activities, but I do not understand the
scenario you are trying to accomplish.

Peter.


"Abdelilah Echchad" <echchad@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:994ee11ccbc8e16d126ec9572b1a14a7$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi
> I hope my question will not be deleted again. Ok anyway,my Problem is that
> I made some reference Workflows and some Sub Workflows that are linked via
> the extends-function to the reference workflows. I can see the activity
> diagrams of the sub workflows using epf but navigating from the reference
> workflow to the subs on the website gives me just a list of task
> descriptors. Someone told me that variability is not possible with
> Capability Patterns, I don't know if this is also meant but I could see
> the subs on the website when I used older versions of EPF. I found out
> that the page with the activity diagram of the subworkflow is published
> but another one without is linked in the reference workflow.
> Is there any solution for this problem.
> Thanks in advance.
> Abdelilah Echchad
>
Re: missing Sub Workflows on website [message #35467 is a reply to message #35331] Wed, 18 July 2007 04:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: echchad.gmx.de

Hi Peter
Thanks for your help. Here is my description of the way I create Reference
and Sub Workflows:
I create a Capabillity Pattern for the Reference Workflow and I drag and
drop Tasks from the Configuration field at the left bottom into the Work
breakdown structure of the Capability Pattern, then I create a new one for
a sub workflow and I do the same here, I drag and drop Tasks into the WBS.
Here I open the activity diagram of this Capability Pattern and draw a
workflow. Then I go back to the Capability Pattern of the Reference
Workflow and into the WBS. To get the Sub Workflow into it I drag and drop
the Capability Pattern from the Configuration field into the WBS and I'm
asked if I want to "copy", "extend" or "deep copy" the Capability Pattern
of the Sub workflow. I use "extend" because my former coach told me that
this get me the benefit that all changes made in the Capability Pattern of
the sub workflow appear everywhere where it is used.Then I open the
activity diagram of the Reference Workflow and draw the workflow with the
item that represents the sub workflow. I hope this description is
sufficient, otherwise I can describe it again in german if you prefer.
Thanks in advance, I look forward to get your helpful answer.

Abdelilah Echchad
Re: missing Sub Workflows on website [message #35725 is a reply to message #35467] Wed, 18 July 2007 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peter Haumer is currently offline Peter Haumer
Messages: 228
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
If you are just using extends the pattern's diagram should show up. Only if
you would have modeled a contribution to the sub-activities no diagram would
be published as the tool would not know where to place the contributed
activities.

There were some bugs in earlier 1.2 builds. Try getting the latest 1.2
builds, open the diagram, right-click and select "Refresh from base" and see
if the diagram is displayed in the editor and the published site.

Hope this helps,
Peter.


"Abdelilah Echchad" <echchad@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:597170767a3a62a98ed448455e0519b5$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi Peter
> Thanks for your help. Here is my description of the way I create Reference
> and Sub Workflows:
> I create a Capabillity Pattern for the Reference Workflow and I drag and
> drop Tasks from the Configuration field at the left bottom into the Work
> breakdown structure of the Capability Pattern, then I create a new one for
> a sub workflow and I do the same here, I drag and drop Tasks into the WBS.
> Here I open the activity diagram of this Capability Pattern and draw a
> workflow. Then I go back to the Capability Pattern of the Reference
> Workflow and into the WBS. To get the Sub Workflow into it I drag and drop
> the Capability Pattern from the Configuration field into the WBS and I'm
> asked if I want to "copy", "extend" or "deep copy" the Capability Pattern
> of the Sub workflow. I use "extend" because my former coach told me that
> this get me the benefit that all changes made in the Capability Pattern of
> the sub workflow appear everywhere where it is used.Then I open the
> activity diagram of the Reference Workflow and draw the workflow with the
> item that represents the sub workflow. I hope this description is
> sufficient, otherwise I can describe it again in german if you prefer.
> Thanks in advance, I look forward to get your helpful answer.
>
> Abdelilah Echchad
>
Re: missing Sub Workflows on website [message #35793 is a reply to message #35467] Thu, 19 July 2007 15:11 Go to previous message
Peter Haumer is currently offline Peter Haumer
Messages: 228
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Did you select the publishing option called: "Publish Activity Diagrams for
unmodified Activity Extensions" ?

"By default activities that are extensions of other activities will not be
published with an Activity Diagram, but only the Breakdown Structure. If
this option is selected however, extending Activities will be published with
the diagram of their base Activities if these extending Activities do not
define their own sub-elements, i.e. are pure pattern applications without
providing its own modifications. If these Activities define their own
elements it is recommended that users create a local activity diagram for
the extending activity that will then be published."

Perhaps that might fix your problem.

Peter.


"Abdelilah Echchad" <echchad@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:597170767a3a62a98ed448455e0519b5$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi Peter
> Thanks for your help. Here is my description of the way I create Reference
> and Sub Workflows:
> I create a Capabillity Pattern for the Reference Workflow and I drag and
> drop Tasks from the Configuration field at the left bottom into the Work
> breakdown structure of the Capability Pattern, then I create a new one for
> a sub workflow and I do the same here, I drag and drop Tasks into the WBS.
> Here I open the activity diagram of this Capability Pattern and draw a
> workflow. Then I go back to the Capability Pattern of the Reference
> Workflow and into the WBS. To get the Sub Workflow into it I drag and drop
> the Capability Pattern from the Configuration field into the WBS and I'm
> asked if I want to "copy", "extend" or "deep copy" the Capability Pattern
> of the Sub workflow. I use "extend" because my former coach told me that
> this get me the benefit that all changes made in the Capability Pattern of
> the sub workflow appear everywhere where it is used.Then I open the
> activity diagram of the Reference Workflow and draw the workflow with the
> item that represents the sub workflow. I hope this description is
> sufficient, otherwise I can describe it again in german if you prefer.
> Thanks in advance, I look forward to get your helpful answer.
>
> Abdelilah Echchad
>
Re: missing Sub Workflows on website [message #580324 is a reply to message #34916] Tue, 17 July 2007 15:11 Go to previous message
Peter Haumer is currently offline Peter Haumer
Messages: 228
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Can you provide the exact steps of what you are doing? You can use
contributes and replace with activities, but I do not understand the
scenario you are trying to accomplish.

Peter.


"Abdelilah Echchad" <echchad@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:994ee11ccbc8e16d126ec9572b1a14a7$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi
> I hope my question will not be deleted again. Ok anyway,my Problem is that
> I made some reference Workflows and some Sub Workflows that are linked via
> the extends-function to the reference workflows. I can see the activity
> diagrams of the sub workflows using epf but navigating from the reference
> workflow to the subs on the website gives me just a list of task
> descriptors. Someone told me that variability is not possible with
> Capability Patterns, I don't know if this is also meant but I could see
> the subs on the website when I used older versions of EPF. I found out
> that the page with the activity diagram of the subworkflow is published
> but another one without is linked in the reference workflow.
> Is there any solution for this problem.
> Thanks in advance.
> Abdelilah Echchad
>
Re: missing Sub Workflows on website [message #580401 is a reply to message #35331] Wed, 18 July 2007 04:12 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: echchad.gmx.de

Hi Peter
Thanks for your help. Here is my description of the way I create Reference
and Sub Workflows:
I create a Capabillity Pattern for the Reference Workflow and I drag and
drop Tasks from the Configuration field at the left bottom into the Work
breakdown structure of the Capability Pattern, then I create a new one for
a sub workflow and I do the same here, I drag and drop Tasks into the WBS.
Here I open the activity diagram of this Capability Pattern and draw a
workflow. Then I go back to the Capability Pattern of the Reference
Workflow and into the WBS. To get the Sub Workflow into it I drag and drop
the Capability Pattern from the Configuration field into the WBS and I'm
asked if I want to "copy", "extend" or "deep copy" the Capability Pattern
of the Sub workflow. I use "extend" because my former coach told me that
this get me the benefit that all changes made in the Capability Pattern of
the sub workflow appear everywhere where it is used.Then I open the
activity diagram of the Reference Workflow and draw the workflow with the
item that represents the sub workflow. I hope this description is
sufficient, otherwise I can describe it again in german if you prefer.
Thanks in advance, I look forward to get your helpful answer.

Abdelilah Echchad
Re: missing Sub Workflows on website [message #580620 is a reply to message #35467] Wed, 18 July 2007 19:45 Go to previous message
Peter Haumer is currently offline Peter Haumer
Messages: 228
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
If you are just using extends the pattern's diagram should show up. Only if
you would have modeled a contribution to the sub-activities no diagram would
be published as the tool would not know where to place the contributed
activities.

There were some bugs in earlier 1.2 builds. Try getting the latest 1.2
builds, open the diagram, right-click and select "Refresh from base" and see
if the diagram is displayed in the editor and the published site.

Hope this helps,
Peter.


"Abdelilah Echchad" <echchad@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:597170767a3a62a98ed448455e0519b5$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi Peter
> Thanks for your help. Here is my description of the way I create Reference
> and Sub Workflows:
> I create a Capabillity Pattern for the Reference Workflow and I drag and
> drop Tasks from the Configuration field at the left bottom into the Work
> breakdown structure of the Capability Pattern, then I create a new one for
> a sub workflow and I do the same here, I drag and drop Tasks into the WBS.
> Here I open the activity diagram of this Capability Pattern and draw a
> workflow. Then I go back to the Capability Pattern of the Reference
> Workflow and into the WBS. To get the Sub Workflow into it I drag and drop
> the Capability Pattern from the Configuration field into the WBS and I'm
> asked if I want to "copy", "extend" or "deep copy" the Capability Pattern
> of the Sub workflow. I use "extend" because my former coach told me that
> this get me the benefit that all changes made in the Capability Pattern of
> the sub workflow appear everywhere where it is used.Then I open the
> activity diagram of the Reference Workflow and draw the workflow with the
> item that represents the sub workflow. I hope this description is
> sufficient, otherwise I can describe it again in german if you prefer.
> Thanks in advance, I look forward to get your helpful answer.
>
> Abdelilah Echchad
>
Re: missing Sub Workflows on website [message #580655 is a reply to message #35467] Thu, 19 July 2007 15:11 Go to previous message
Peter Haumer is currently offline Peter Haumer
Messages: 228
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Did you select the publishing option called: "Publish Activity Diagrams for
unmodified Activity Extensions" ?

"By default activities that are extensions of other activities will not be
published with an Activity Diagram, but only the Breakdown Structure. If
this option is selected however, extending Activities will be published with
the diagram of their base Activities if these extending Activities do not
define their own sub-elements, i.e. are pure pattern applications without
providing its own modifications. If these Activities define their own
elements it is recommended that users create a local activity diagram for
the extending activity that will then be published."

Perhaps that might fix your problem.

Peter.


"Abdelilah Echchad" <echchad@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:597170767a3a62a98ed448455e0519b5$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi Peter
> Thanks for your help. Here is my description of the way I create Reference
> and Sub Workflows:
> I create a Capabillity Pattern for the Reference Workflow and I drag and
> drop Tasks from the Configuration field at the left bottom into the Work
> breakdown structure of the Capability Pattern, then I create a new one for
> a sub workflow and I do the same here, I drag and drop Tasks into the WBS.
> Here I open the activity diagram of this Capability Pattern and draw a
> workflow. Then I go back to the Capability Pattern of the Reference
> Workflow and into the WBS. To get the Sub Workflow into it I drag and drop
> the Capability Pattern from the Configuration field into the WBS and I'm
> asked if I want to "copy", "extend" or "deep copy" the Capability Pattern
> of the Sub workflow. I use "extend" because my former coach told me that
> this get me the benefit that all changes made in the Capability Pattern of
> the sub workflow appear everywhere where it is used.Then I open the
> activity diagram of the Reference Workflow and draw the workflow with the
> item that represents the sub workflow. I hope this description is
> sufficient, otherwise I can describe it again in german if you prefer.
> Thanks in advance, I look forward to get your helpful answer.
>
> Abdelilah Echchad
>
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