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Task Editor [message #34856] Fri, 02 November 2007 06:59 Go to next message
Timo  övenich is currently offline Timo övenichFriend
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi,

is it possible to change the Task-Editor "type"?
The idea:
I've defined my own perspective.
In this perspective, i wanted to view the java-editor and the
task-description at the same time.

When i reopened my perspective, this configuration is lost.
I'll guess because of an java-editor type?

It is also unable to drag it to the "problems/search/..." view of cause.

Is there another solution possible?

Timo
Re: Task Editor [message #36017 is a reply to message #34856] Fri, 09 November 2007 00:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: beatmik.acm.org

Hi Timo,

It sounds like you are trying to see two editors at once (e.g.
http://www.coconut-palm-software.com/~djo/blog_images/eclips e_split_pane.png).
As far as I know Eclipse perspectives don't store this layout, so
you shouldn't be able to make this work with two Java editors either.
Is that the case?

What is your use case for dragging to Problems or Search?

Mik

Timo Lövenich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is it possible to change the Task-Editor "type"?
> The idea:
> I've defined my own perspective.
> In this perspective, i wanted to view the java-editor and the
> task-description at the same time.
>
> When i reopened my perspective, this configuration is lost.
> I'll guess because of an java-editor type?
>
> It is also unable to drag it to the "problems/search/..." view of cause.
>
> Is there another solution possible?
>
> Timo
Re: Task Editor [message #36635 is a reply to message #36017] Mon, 19 November 2007 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Timo  övenich is currently offline Timo övenichFriend
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi Mik,

the idea is viewing the mylyn-task and editing code at the same time
(like the split pane in your link) usually.
This could be a user-defined perspective.

At the moment this isn't possible (only when splitting the editor, but
this every time).

Maybe it is possible to develop a new simple view, which shows the
content of the current active task?
Then it will be possible to view the task description etc. when coding.

Timo


Mik Kersten wrote:
> Hi Timo,
>
> It sounds like you are trying to see two editors at once (e.g.
> http://www.coconut-palm-software.com/~djo/blog_images/eclips e_split_pane.png).
> As far as I know Eclipse perspectives don't store this layout, so you
> shouldn't be able to make this work with two Java editors either. Is
> that the case?
>
> What is your use case for dragging to Problems or Search?
>
> Mik
>
> Timo Lövenich wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> is it possible to change the Task-Editor "type"?
>> The idea:
>> I've defined my own perspective.
>> In this perspective, i wanted to view the java-editor and the
>> task-description at the same time.
>>
>> When i reopened my perspective, this configuration is lost.
>> I'll guess because of an java-editor type?
>>
>> It is also unable to drag it to the "problems/search/..." view of cause.
>>
>> Is there another solution possible?
>>
>> Timo
Re: Task Editor [message #37175 is a reply to message #36635] Fri, 23 November 2007 19:57 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: beatmik.acm.org

Hi Timo,

Eclipse's interaction is optimized around only having a single editor
visible at a time, and Mylyn inherits that. For this reason we have
tried to make it as easy as possible to open the editor for the active
task (hyperlink in Task List view). Sometimes I find myself putting the
task editor next to the source editor, but this is pretty rare.

Using a view to show a task editor is problematic because it replicates
content, and because it can be tedious to manage such content in views.
For example, JDT's Declarations view was intended to do something very
similar, and we have usage date that indicates it very rarely gets uses.

The alternative that we have to opening the Task Editor is to show a
tooltip, which we have been making an increasingly rich display of the
most relevant task editor contents. We have added the tooltip to the
active task hyperlink for Mylyn 2.2, so consider trying that out in the
next weekly build. If you still feel yourself needing an additional
display of the active task consider reporting back or filing a bug.

http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/bugs/

Cheers,

Mik

Timo Lövenich wrote:
> Hi Mik,
>
> the idea is viewing the mylyn-task and editing code at the same time
> (like the split pane in your link) usually.
> This could be a user-defined perspective.
>
> At the moment this isn't possible (only when splitting the editor, but
> this every time).
>
> Maybe it is possible to develop a new simple view, which shows the
> content of the current active task?
> Then it will be possible to view the task description etc. when coding.
>
> Timo
Re: Task Editor [message #584636 is a reply to message #34856] Fri, 09 November 2007 00:41 Go to previous message
Mik Kersten is currently offline Mik KerstenFriend
Messages: 287
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Timo,

It sounds like you are trying to see two editors at once (e.g.
http://www.coconut-palm-software.com/~djo/blog_images/eclips e_split_pane.png).
As far as I know Eclipse perspectives don't store this layout, so
you shouldn't be able to make this work with two Java editors either.
Is that the case?

What is your use case for dragging to Problems or Search?

Mik

Timo Lövenich wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is it possible to change the Task-Editor "type"?
> The idea:
> I've defined my own perspective.
> In this perspective, i wanted to view the java-editor and the
> task-description at the same time.
>
> When i reopened my perspective, this configuration is lost.
> I'll guess because of an java-editor type?
>
> It is also unable to drag it to the "problems/search/..." view of cause.
>
> Is there another solution possible?
>
> Timo
Re: Task Editor [message #584870 is a reply to message #36017] Mon, 19 November 2007 10:47 Go to previous message
Timo  övenich is currently offline Timo övenichFriend
Messages: 22
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Hi Mik,

the idea is viewing the mylyn-task and editing code at the same time
(like the split pane in your link) usually.
This could be a user-defined perspective.

At the moment this isn't possible (only when splitting the editor, but
this every time).

Maybe it is possible to develop a new simple view, which shows the
content of the current active task?
Then it will be possible to view the task description etc. when coding.

Timo


Mik Kersten wrote:
> Hi Timo,
>
> It sounds like you are trying to see two editors at once (e.g.
> http://www.coconut-palm-software.com/~djo/blog_images/eclips e_split_pane.png).
> As far as I know Eclipse perspectives don't store this layout, so you
> shouldn't be able to make this work with two Java editors either. Is
> that the case?
>
> What is your use case for dragging to Problems or Search?
>
> Mik
>
> Timo Lövenich wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> is it possible to change the Task-Editor "type"?
>> The idea:
>> I've defined my own perspective.
>> In this perspective, i wanted to view the java-editor and the
>> task-description at the same time.
>>
>> When i reopened my perspective, this configuration is lost.
>> I'll guess because of an java-editor type?
>>
>> It is also unable to drag it to the "problems/search/..." view of cause.
>>
>> Is there another solution possible?
>>
>> Timo
Re: Task Editor [message #585088 is a reply to message #36635] Fri, 23 November 2007 19:57 Go to previous message
Mik Kersten is currently offline Mik KerstenFriend
Messages: 287
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Timo,

Eclipse's interaction is optimized around only having a single editor
visible at a time, and Mylyn inherits that. For this reason we have
tried to make it as easy as possible to open the editor for the active
task (hyperlink in Task List view). Sometimes I find myself putting the
task editor next to the source editor, but this is pretty rare.

Using a view to show a task editor is problematic because it replicates
content, and because it can be tedious to manage such content in views.
For example, JDT's Declarations view was intended to do something very
similar, and we have usage date that indicates it very rarely gets uses.

The alternative that we have to opening the Task Editor is to show a
tooltip, which we have been making an increasingly rich display of the
most relevant task editor contents. We have added the tooltip to the
active task hyperlink for Mylyn 2.2, so consider trying that out in the
next weekly build. If you still feel yourself needing an additional
display of the active task consider reporting back or filing a bug.

http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/bugs/

Cheers,

Mik

Timo Lövenich wrote:
> Hi Mik,
>
> the idea is viewing the mylyn-task and editing code at the same time
> (like the split pane in your link) usually.
> This could be a user-defined perspective.
>
> At the moment this isn't possible (only when splitting the editor, but
> this every time).
>
> Maybe it is possible to develop a new simple view, which shows the
> content of the current active task?
> Then it will be possible to view the task description etc. when coding.
>
> Timo
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