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Why is the mac os x cocoa-x86_64 download hidden away? [message #336608] Thu, 25 June 2009 04:55 Go to next message
Reinier Zwitserloot is currently offline Reinier ZwitserlootFriend
Messages: 2
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
On the eclipse download page: http://eclipse.org/downloads/

Linux is listed for each bundle as 'Linux (32-bit)' and 'Linux (64-bit)'.
Mac OS X has listings for "cocoa" and "carbon", but the cocoa links seem
to all go to ....-cocoa.tar.gz, which are the 32-bit versions. This means
they HAVE to run on java 1.5 and not java 1.6, as the only (apple) JVMs on
java 1.6 are 64-bit.

You CAN find the ...-cocoa-x64_64.tar.gz downloads on the eclipse PROJECT
download page:

http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/

but the only practical way to get there is via a small link in explanatory
text near the bottom of the usual download page, and the only download
offered there is eclipse classic.


Why is that?
Re: Why is the mac os x cocoa-x86_64 download hidden away? [message #336626 is a reply to message #336608] Thu, 25 June 2009 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> On the eclipse download page: http://eclipse.org/downloads/
>
> Linux is listed for each bundle as 'Linux (32-bit)' and 'Linux
> (64-bit)'. Mac OS X has listings for "cocoa" and "carbon", but the cocoa
> links seem to all go to ....-cocoa.tar.gz, which are the 32-bit
> versions. This means they HAVE to run on java 1.5 and not java 1.6, as
> the only (apple) JVMs on java 1.6 are 64-bit.
>
> You CAN find the ...-cocoa-x64_64.tar.gz downloads on the eclipse
> PROJECT download page:
>
> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
>
> but the only practical way to get there is via a small link in
> explanatory text near the bottom of the usual download page, and the
> only download offered there is eclipse classic.
>
>
> Why is that?
>
>

Reinier,
See the similar discussion today in the eclipse.technology.packaging
newsgroup.

Eric
Re: Why is the mac os x cocoa-x86_64 download hidden away? [message #336630 is a reply to message #336626] Thu, 25 June 2009 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Hawksley is currently offline John HawksleyFriend
Messages: 26
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
I'm heading over there too: I just tried to "overlay" the 64-bit
version over the 32-bit version, and am ending up editing all sorts of
config files I've never been in before!

I'll revert back to pure 32 until I've read more :-)

-John

Eric Rizzo wrote:
> Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
>> On the eclipse download page: http://eclipse.org/downloads/
>>
>> Linux is listed for each bundle as 'Linux (32-bit)' and 'Linux
>> (64-bit)'. Mac OS X has listings for "cocoa" and "carbon", but the
>> cocoa links seem to all go to ....-cocoa.tar.gz, which are the 32-bit
>> versions. This means they HAVE to run on java 1.5 and not java 1.6, as
>> the only (apple) JVMs on java 1.6 are 64-bit.
>>
>> You CAN find the ...-cocoa-x64_64.tar.gz downloads on the eclipse
>> PROJECT download page:
>>
>> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
>>
>> but the only practical way to get there is via a small link in
>> explanatory text near the bottom of the usual download page, and the
>> only download offered there is eclipse classic.
>>
>>
>> Why is that?
>>
>>
>
> Reinier,
> See the similar discussion today in the eclipse.technology.packaging
> newsgroup.
>
> Eric
Re: Why is the mac os x cocoa-x86_64 download hidden away? [message #336635 is a reply to message #336626] Thu, 25 June 2009 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Reinier Zwitserloot is currently offline Reinier ZwitserlootFriend
Messages: 2
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Ah, that's the right newsgroup for this question. I poured over the list
but evidently I missed it. Thanks for the pointer, eric - heading over
there now.
Re: Why is the mac os x cocoa-x86_64 download hidden away? [message #336679 is a reply to message #336630] Fri, 26 June 2009 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

John Hawksley wrote:
> I'm heading over there too: I just tried to "overlay" the 64-bit
> version over the 32-bit version, and am ending up editing all sorts of
> config files I've never been in before!
>
> I'll revert back to pure 32 until I've read more :-)

The best approach if you want 64-bit right now is to download the
"Eclipse Classic" Package build for OS X 64 (available under "Other
Downloads" link) and then install whatever features you want using the
Help > Install New Software... wizard.

Hope this helps,
Eric



> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>> Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
>>> On the eclipse download page: http://eclipse.org/downloads/
>>>
>>> Linux is listed for each bundle as 'Linux (32-bit)' and 'Linux
>>> (64-bit)'. Mac OS X has listings for "cocoa" and "carbon", but the
>>> cocoa links seem to all go to ....-cocoa.tar.gz, which are the 32-bit
>>> versions. This means they HAVE to run on java 1.5 and not java 1.6,
>>> as the only (apple) JVMs on java 1.6 are 64-bit.
>>>
>>> You CAN find the ...-cocoa-x64_64.tar.gz downloads on the eclipse
>>> PROJECT download page:
>>>
>>> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
>>>
>>> but the only practical way to get there is via a small link in
>>> explanatory text near the bottom of the usual download page, and the
>>> only download offered there is eclipse classic.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why is that?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Reinier,
>> See the similar discussion today in the eclipse.technology.packaging
>> newsgroup.
>>
>> Eric
Re: Why is the mac os x cocoa-x86_64 download hidden away? [message #336790 is a reply to message #336679] Thu, 02 July 2009 20:54 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

I've posted a screencast demo of doing this on my blog:
http://bewarethepenguin.blogspot.com/2009/07/screencast-crea ting-eclipse-download.html

There's also a text/picture description on Ekke's blog:
http://ekkescorner.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/galileo-epp-for- cocoa-64-bit/

Eric


Eric Rizzo wrote:
> John Hawksley wrote:
>> I'm heading over there too: I just tried to "overlay" the 64-bit
>> version over the 32-bit version, and am ending up editing all sorts of
>> config files I've never been in before!
>>
>> I'll revert back to pure 32 until I've read more :-)
>
> The best approach if you want 64-bit right now is to download the
> "Eclipse Classic" Package build for OS X 64 (available under "Other
> Downloads" link) and then install whatever features you want using the
> Help > Install New Software... wizard.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Eric
>
>
>
>> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>>> Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
>>>> On the eclipse download page: http://eclipse.org/downloads/
>>>>
>>>> Linux is listed for each bundle as 'Linux (32-bit)' and 'Linux
>>>> (64-bit)'. Mac OS X has listings for "cocoa" and "carbon", but the
>>>> cocoa links seem to all go to ....-cocoa.tar.gz, which are the
>>>> 32-bit versions. This means they HAVE to run on java 1.5 and not
>>>> java 1.6, as the only (apple) JVMs on java 1.6 are 64-bit.
>>>>
>>>> You CAN find the ...-cocoa-x64_64.tar.gz downloads on the eclipse
>>>> PROJECT download page:
>>>>
>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
>>>>
>>>> but the only practical way to get there is via a small link in
>>>> explanatory text near the bottom of the usual download page, and the
>>>> only download offered there is eclipse classic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why is that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Reinier,
>>> See the similar discussion today in the eclipse.technology.packaging
>>> newsgroup.
>>>
>>> Eric
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