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Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #32918] Tue, 17 July 2007 06:18 Go to next message
Jeff Ramsdale is currently offline Jeff Ramsdale
Messages: 122
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be willing
to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model as mentioned
in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?

Bugzilla entry:
< https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>

Model:
< http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>

Thanks,

Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #32988 is a reply to message #32918] Thu, 19 July 2007 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

Jeff,

Probably it's best just to manufacture your own using the generated
editor. I'm not sure there are any real world uses of this sample model...


Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be willing
> to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model as
> mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>
> Bugzilla entry:
> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>
>
> Model:
> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #37971 is a reply to message #32918] Fri, 02 November 2007 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: jconlon.apache.org

Hi Jeff,

I've been a sleep at the wheel - just now checked the dtp mail list and
saw your Ecore threads. (Had been watching EMF and Birt. DUH.)

Do you still need MindMap data??

Is there anything else I can do to help?

best regards,
John Conlon


Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be willing
> to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model as mentioned
> in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>
> Bugzilla entry:
> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>
>
> Model:
> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #37997 is a reply to message #37971] Mon, 05 November 2007 05:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Ramsdale is currently offline Jeff Ramsdale
Messages: 122
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Sure thing! I'd slowed down a bit working on it, but was just easing
back into development. Could still use some good test data--if you'd
want to jump in that'd be a good place. I believe I have a basic driver
working but I don't have much for the UI yet.

Someone else has contacted me about helping on the project but we were
just getting started discussing how best to collaborate. Since our goal
is to donate the code (but that takes a while, from what I hear) we need
a place to park until the process is complete.

Jeff

John E. Conlon wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> I've been a sleep at the wheel - just now checked the dtp mail list and
> saw your Ecore threads. (Had been watching EMF and Birt. DUH.)
>
> Do you still need MindMap data??
>
> Is there anything else I can do to help?
>
> best regards,
> John Conlon
>
>
> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
>> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be willing
>> to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model as
>> mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>
>> Bugzilla entry:
>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>
>>
>> Model:
>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #38123 is a reply to message #37997] Mon, 05 November 2007 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: jconlon.apache.org

Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> Sure thing! I'd slowed down a bit working on it, but was just easing
> back into development. Could still use some good test data--if you'd
> want to jump in that'd be a good place.
Cool. Glad to help.
You still want it as a mindmap model? Not too familiar with the model,
but I do use the Java based mindmap application FreeMind so I am
familiar with the problem domain. (I am assuming it is the same.) If
you wand the data as a mindmap model a trivial question comes to mind -
do you have a subject you would like to map out?

BTW-Why mindmap and not the perennially favorite Library or
PurchaseOrder variants?

I believe I have a basic driver
> working but I don't have much for the UI yet.
First things first.

> Someone else has contacted me about helping on the project but we were
> just getting started discussing how best to collaborate. Since our goal
> is to donate the code (but that takes a while, from what I hear) we need
> a place to park until the process is complete.

Do you mean a code repository site?

regards,

John


>
> Jeff
>
> John E. Conlon wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> I've been a sleep at the wheel - just now checked the dtp mail list
>> and saw your Ecore threads. (Had been watching EMF and Birt. DUH.)
>>
>> Do you still need MindMap data??
>>
>> Is there anything else I can do to help?
>>
>> best regards,
>> John Conlon
>>
>>
>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
>>> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be
>>> willing to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model
>>> as mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>>
>>> Bugzilla entry:
>>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>>
>>>
>>> Model:
>>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #38219 is a reply to message #37997] Tue, 06 November 2007 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: jconlon.apache.org

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Hi Jeff,

While I now understand the mindmap model structure, I am not too sure
about the use cases for these mindmap elements. This model is not much
like the other mindmap software that I have worked with.

Nevertheless I created a mindmap model called oda4Emf.mindmap and a
mindmap gmf diagram oda4Emf.mmd. These files are attached.

Note: While the contents may have some relationship to the project of
creating a ODA 4 EMF, the actual content was just created to fill the
need for test data.

As mentioned above I just sort of winged it so this model may contain
some usage mistakes that need correcting. Like I said, I really don't
understand the use cases for the different elements of the model.

Do you think that this mindmap model may present too unusual model for
the report writers?

cheers,
John



Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> Sure thing! I'd slowed down a bit working on it, but was just easing
> back into development. Could still use some good test data--if you'd
> want to jump in that'd be a good place. I believe I have a basic driver
> working but I don't have much for the UI yet.
>
> Someone else has contacted me about helping on the project but we were
> just getting started discussing how best to collaborate. Since our goal
> is to donate the code (but that takes a while, from what I hear) we need
> a place to park until the process is complete.
>
> Jeff
>
> John E. Conlon wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> I've been a sleep at the wheel - just now checked the dtp mail list
>> and saw your Ecore threads. (Had been watching EMF and Birt. DUH.)
>>
>> Do you still need MindMap data??
>>
>> Is there anything else I can do to help?
>>
>> best regards,
>> John Conlon
>>
>>
>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
>>> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be
>>> willing to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model
>>> as mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>>
>>> Bugzilla entry:
>>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>>
>>>
>>> Model:
>>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff


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Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #38287 is a reply to message #38123] Wed, 07 November 2007 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Ramsdale is currently offline Jeff Ramsdale
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Hi John,

John E. Conlon wrote:
> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>> Sure thing! I'd slowed down a bit working on it, but was just easing
>> back into development. Could still use some good test data--if you'd
>> want to jump in that'd be a good place.
> Cool. Glad to help.
> You still want it as a mindmap model? Not too familiar with the model,
> but I do use the Java based mindmap application FreeMind so I am
> familiar with the problem domain. (I am assuming it is the same.) If
> you wand the data as a mindmap model a trivial question comes to mind -
> do you have a subject you would like to map out?

I'm not really familiar with the problem domain, so I was actually a bit
hung up here because my time was limited.

> BTW-Why mindmap and not the perennially favorite Library or
> PurchaseOrder variants?

Because the use case called out in the Bugzilla entry specifies Mindmap:
<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958>. If the
contribution proved capable of achieving the test case but didn't use
Mindmap data in the test cases I'm sure it would be accepted anyway.
It's just nice to have the test prove the capability.

> I believe I have a basic driver
>> working but I don't have much for the UI yet.
> First things first.

Yup.

>> Someone else has contacted me about helping on the project but we were
>> just getting started discussing how best to collaborate. Since our
>> goal is to donate the code (but that takes a while, from what I hear)
>> we need a place to park until the process is complete.
>
> Do you mean a code repository site?

Yes. I started a newer thread on this subject entitled "Attempt to avoid
misuse of Eclipse Foundation trademarks".

> regards,
>
> John

Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #38319 is a reply to message #38219] Wed, 07 November 2007 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Ramsdale is currently offline Jeff Ramsdale
Messages: 122
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Thanks John,

Big help! No worries if there are any mistakes--just getting this sort
of test data will help me move forward and I'm sure someone will provide
a correction somewhere along the line if it's needed.

Trying to figure out how best to collaborate. See the newer thread for
more...

Jeff

John E. Conlon wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> While I now understand the mindmap model structure, I am not too sure
> about the use cases for these mindmap elements. This model is not much
> like the other mindmap software that I have worked with.
>
> Nevertheless I created a mindmap model called oda4Emf.mindmap and a
> mindmap gmf diagram oda4Emf.mmd. These files are attached.
>
> Note: While the contents may have some relationship to the project of
> creating a ODA 4 EMF, the actual content was just created to fill the
> need for test data.
>
> As mentioned above I just sort of winged it so this model may contain
> some usage mistakes that need correcting. Like I said, I really don't
> understand the use cases for the different elements of the model.
>
> Do you think that this mindmap model may present too unusual model for
> the report writers?
>
> cheers,
> John
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #38759 is a reply to message #38219] Tue, 13 November 2007 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: jconlon.apache.org

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Have attached
1. an updated mindMap instance to use for test data
2. its gmf editor file
3. and a set of simple example ocl queries

Please note:
My OCL skills are not very acute and so are not quite up to the level
necessary to weave together sensible queries for this very (too??)
abstract mindmap model. In order to do so one would need to use nested
ocl expressions to first capture relationship source and targets in
order to follow the edges from node to node. Ugh!

Anyone knows ocl well enough to craft us a couple of nested ocl queries??

As an alternative I suggest we abandon the mindmap metamodel and just
use the perennially favorite EXTLibrary metamodel for our testing
purposes instead.

kind regards,
John



John E. Conlon wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> While I now understand the mindmap model structure, I am not too sure
> about the use cases for these mindmap elements. This model is not much
> like the other mindmap software that I have worked with.
>
> Nevertheless I created a mindmap model called oda4Emf.mindmap and a
> mindmap gmf diagram oda4Emf.mmd. These files are attached.
>
> Note: While the contents may have some relationship to the project of
> creating a ODA 4 EMF, the actual content was just created to fill the
> need for test data.
>
> As mentioned above I just sort of winged it so this model may contain
> some usage mistakes that need correcting. Like I said, I really don't
> understand the use cases for the different elements of the model.
>
> Do you think that this mindmap model may present too unusual model for
> the report writers?
>
> cheers,
> John
>
>
>
> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>> Sure thing! I'd slowed down a bit working on it, but was just easing
>> back into development. Could still use some good test data--if you'd
>> want to jump in that'd be a good place. I believe I have a basic
>> driver working but I don't have much for the UI yet.
>>
>> Someone else has contacted me about helping on the project but we were
>> just getting started discussing how best to collaborate. Since our
>> goal is to donate the code (but that takes a while, from what I hear)
>> we need a place to park until the process is complete.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> John E. Conlon wrote:
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> I've been a sleep at the wheel - just now checked the dtp mail list
>>> and saw your Ecore threads. (Had been watching EMF and Birt. DUH.)
>>>
>>> Do you still need MindMap data??
>>>
>>> Is there anything else I can do to help?
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>> John Conlon
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What
>>>> I most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be
>>>> willing to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model
>>>> as mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>>>
>>>> Bugzilla entry:
>>>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Model:
>>>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
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filename="ODATestDataQueries"

-- The following OCL Queries use the Document Root as the context

-- List all the resources
self.map.resources

-- List the names and emails of all the resources
self.map.resources -> collect(
r: Resource | Tuple {
name: String = r.name,
email: String = r.email

}
)

-- List all the relations
self.map.relations


-- List the label, the source, and the target Topics of all the relations
self.map.relations -> collect(
r: Relationship | Tuple {
label: String = r.label,
source: Topic = r.source,
target: Topic = r.target

}
)


-- List the label, the source, and the target names of all the relations of
-- eclipse magazines
self.map.relations -> select(label='eclipse magazines') -> collect(
r: Relationship | Tuple {
label: String = r.label,
source: String = r.source.name,
target: String = r.target.name

}
)

-- List all the rootTopics
self.map.rootTopics

-- List the label, the source, and the target names of all the relations of
-- eclipse magazines
self.map.rootTopics -> collect(
r: Topic | Tuple {
label: String = r.label,
source: String = r.source.name,
target: String = r.target.name

}
)

-- List all the names and dates for the rootTopics
self.map.rootTopics -> collect(
r: Topic | Tuple {
name: String = r.name,
startDate: Date = r.startDate,
endDate: Date = r.endDate
}
)

-- List all the names and dates for rootTopics with a startDate
self.map.rootTopics -> select(not startDate.oclIsUndefined()) -> collect(
r: Topic | Tuple {
name: String = r.name,
startDate: Date = r.startDate,
endDate: Date = r.endDate
}
)

--------------090300070508000101040007--
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #39152 is a reply to message #32918] Wed, 28 November 2007 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Philipp W. Kutter is currently offline Philipp W. Kutter
Messages: 301
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi, Jeff.
As mentioned, we need an Ecore driver for Birt too.

Do you still need help? Is there already something to test?

Best, Philipp

Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be willing
> to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model as mentioned
> in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>
> Bugzilla entry:
> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>
>
> Model:
> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #39183 is a reply to message #39152] Wed, 28 November 2007 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com

Philipp,

Jeff tends to hang out on IRC's #eclipse-modeling so you might try
chatting with him there. He's asimino, or some spelling variation of
that. It think it would be a very valuable contribution if this work
resulted in being able to feed EMF model data into BIRT. I could
imagine a great many uses for that...


Philipp W. Kutter wrote:
> Hi, Jeff.
> As mentioned, we need an Ecore driver for Birt too.
>
> Do you still need help? Is there already something to test?
>
> Best, Philipp
>
> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
>> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be
>> willing to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model
>> as mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>
>> Bugzilla entry:
>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>
>>
>> Model:
>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #39214 is a reply to message #39183] Wed, 28 November 2007 17:00 Go to previous message
Philipp W. Kutter is currently offline Philipp W. Kutter
Messages: 301
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi, Ed.
I'll see whether I manage to get hooked to IRC....

For my case: I committed to one of our clients that we get Birt
reporting running over his EMF data, we adviced him to build.

I wonder if CDO would be a good intermediate technology too. I am
thinking of looking at Birt's report types, and then create a mapping
model from EMF to these report types, and then drive the
parameterization of Birt along these mapping models. Birt would
then think it accesses a normal DB, and all the logic is in the
interpreter of the mapping model. This may have as advantage, that it
may allow to connect different reporting solutions.

On the other hand, if we can contribute to Jeff's work, and then take
advantage of this, I would like this too.

Best, Philipp


Ed Merks wrote:
> Philipp,
>
> Jeff tends to hang out on IRC's #eclipse-modeling so you might try
> chatting with him there. He's asimino, or some spelling variation of
> that. It think it would be a very valuable contribution if this work
> resulted in being able to feed EMF model data into BIRT. I could
> imagine a great many uses for that...
>
>
> Philipp W. Kutter wrote:
>> Hi, Jeff.
>> As mentioned, we need an Ecore driver for Birt too.
>>
>> Do you still need help? Is there already something to test?
>>
>> Best, Philipp
>>
>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
>>> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be
>>> willing to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model
>>> as mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>>
>>> Bugzilla entry:
>>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>>
>>>
>>> Model:
>>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #586634 is a reply to message #32918] Thu, 19 July 2007 15:41 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
Messages: 26130
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Jeff,

Probably it's best just to manufacture your own using the generated
editor. I'm not sure there are any real world uses of this sample model...


Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be willing
> to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model as
> mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>
> Bugzilla entry:
> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>
>
> Model:
> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #588400 is a reply to message #32918] Fri, 02 November 2007 20:20 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: jconlon.apache.org

Hi Jeff,

I've been a sleep at the wheel - just now checked the dtp mail list and
saw your Ecore threads. (Had been watching EMF and Birt. DUH.)

Do you still need MindMap data??

Is there anything else I can do to help?

best regards,
John Conlon


Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be willing
> to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model as mentioned
> in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>
> Bugzilla entry:
> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>
>
> Model:
> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #588405 is a reply to message #37971] Mon, 05 November 2007 05:53 Go to previous message
Jeff Ramsdale is currently offline Jeff Ramsdale
Messages: 122
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Sure thing! I'd slowed down a bit working on it, but was just easing
back into development. Could still use some good test data--if you'd
want to jump in that'd be a good place. I believe I have a basic driver
working but I don't have much for the UI yet.

Someone else has contacted me about helping on the project but we were
just getting started discussing how best to collaborate. Since our goal
is to donate the code (but that takes a while, from what I hear) we need
a place to park until the process is complete.

Jeff

John E. Conlon wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> I've been a sleep at the wheel - just now checked the dtp mail list and
> saw your Ecore threads. (Had been watching EMF and Birt. DUH.)
>
> Do you still need MindMap data??
>
> Is there anything else I can do to help?
>
> best regards,
> John Conlon
>
>
> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
>> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be willing
>> to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model as
>> mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>
>> Bugzilla entry:
>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>
>>
>> Model:
>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #588445 is a reply to message #37997] Mon, 05 November 2007 16:18 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: jconlon.apache.org

Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> Sure thing! I'd slowed down a bit working on it, but was just easing
> back into development. Could still use some good test data--if you'd
> want to jump in that'd be a good place.
Cool. Glad to help.
You still want it as a mindmap model? Not too familiar with the model,
but I do use the Java based mindmap application FreeMind so I am
familiar with the problem domain. (I am assuming it is the same.) If
you wand the data as a mindmap model a trivial question comes to mind -
do you have a subject you would like to map out?

BTW-Why mindmap and not the perennially favorite Library or
PurchaseOrder variants?

I believe I have a basic driver
> working but I don't have much for the UI yet.
First things first.

> Someone else has contacted me about helping on the project but we were
> just getting started discussing how best to collaborate. Since our goal
> is to donate the code (but that takes a while, from what I hear) we need
> a place to park until the process is complete.

Do you mean a code repository site?

regards,

John


>
> Jeff
>
> John E. Conlon wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> I've been a sleep at the wheel - just now checked the dtp mail list
>> and saw your Ecore threads. (Had been watching EMF and Birt. DUH.)
>>
>> Do you still need MindMap data??
>>
>> Is there anything else I can do to help?
>>
>> best regards,
>> John Conlon
>>
>>
>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
>>> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be
>>> willing to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model
>>> as mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>>
>>> Bugzilla entry:
>>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>>
>>>
>>> Model:
>>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #588471 is a reply to message #37997] Tue, 06 November 2007 00:50 Go to previous message
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Hi Jeff,

While I now understand the mindmap model structure, I am not too sure
about the use cases for these mindmap elements. This model is not much
like the other mindmap software that I have worked with.

Nevertheless I created a mindmap model called oda4Emf.mindmap and a
mindmap gmf diagram oda4Emf.mmd. These files are attached.

Note: While the contents may have some relationship to the project of
creating a ODA 4 EMF, the actual content was just created to fill the
need for test data.

As mentioned above I just sort of winged it so this model may contain
some usage mistakes that need correcting. Like I said, I really don't
understand the use cases for the different elements of the model.

Do you think that this mindmap model may present too unusual model for
the report writers?

cheers,
John



Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> Sure thing! I'd slowed down a bit working on it, but was just easing
> back into development. Could still use some good test data--if you'd
> want to jump in that'd be a good place. I believe I have a basic driver
> working but I don't have much for the UI yet.
>
> Someone else has contacted me about helping on the project but we were
> just getting started discussing how best to collaborate. Since our goal
> is to donate the code (but that takes a while, from what I hear) we need
> a place to park until the process is complete.
>
> Jeff
>
> John E. Conlon wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> I've been a sleep at the wheel - just now checked the dtp mail list
>> and saw your Ecore threads. (Had been watching EMF and Birt. DUH.)
>>
>> Do you still need MindMap data??
>>
>> Is there anything else I can do to help?
>>
>> best regards,
>> John Conlon
>>
>>
>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
>>> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be
>>> willing to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model
>>> as mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>>
>>> Bugzilla entry:
>>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>>
>>>
>>> Model:
>>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff


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Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #588488 is a reply to message #38123] Wed, 07 November 2007 07:49 Go to previous message
Jeff Ramsdale is currently offline Jeff Ramsdale
Messages: 122
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi John,

John E. Conlon wrote:
> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>> Sure thing! I'd slowed down a bit working on it, but was just easing
>> back into development. Could still use some good test data--if you'd
>> want to jump in that'd be a good place.
> Cool. Glad to help.
> You still want it as a mindmap model? Not too familiar with the model,
> but I do use the Java based mindmap application FreeMind so I am
> familiar with the problem domain. (I am assuming it is the same.) If
> you wand the data as a mindmap model a trivial question comes to mind -
> do you have a subject you would like to map out?

I'm not really familiar with the problem domain, so I was actually a bit
hung up here because my time was limited.

> BTW-Why mindmap and not the perennially favorite Library or
> PurchaseOrder variants?

Because the use case called out in the Bugzilla entry specifies Mindmap:
<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958>. If the
contribution proved capable of achieving the test case but didn't use
Mindmap data in the test cases I'm sure it would be accepted anyway.
It's just nice to have the test prove the capability.

> I believe I have a basic driver
>> working but I don't have much for the UI yet.
> First things first.

Yup.

>> Someone else has contacted me about helping on the project but we were
>> just getting started discussing how best to collaborate. Since our
>> goal is to donate the code (but that takes a while, from what I hear)
>> we need a place to park until the process is complete.
>
> Do you mean a code repository site?

Yes. I started a newer thread on this subject entitled "Attempt to avoid
misuse of Eclipse Foundation trademarks".

> regards,
>
> John

Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #588497 is a reply to message #38219] Wed, 07 November 2007 07:53 Go to previous message
Jeff Ramsdale is currently offline Jeff Ramsdale
Messages: 122
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Thanks John,

Big help! No worries if there are any mistakes--just getting this sort
of test data will help me move forward and I'm sure someone will provide
a correction somewhere along the line if it's needed.

Trying to figure out how best to collaborate. See the newer thread for
more...

Jeff

John E. Conlon wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> While I now understand the mindmap model structure, I am not too sure
> about the use cases for these mindmap elements. This model is not much
> like the other mindmap software that I have worked with.
>
> Nevertheless I created a mindmap model called oda4Emf.mindmap and a
> mindmap gmf diagram oda4Emf.mmd. These files are attached.
>
> Note: While the contents may have some relationship to the project of
> creating a ODA 4 EMF, the actual content was just created to fill the
> need for test data.
>
> As mentioned above I just sort of winged it so this model may contain
> some usage mistakes that need correcting. Like I said, I really don't
> understand the use cases for the different elements of the model.
>
> Do you think that this mindmap model may present too unusual model for
> the report writers?
>
> cheers,
> John
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #588621 is a reply to message #38219] Tue, 13 November 2007 01:46 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: jconlon.apache.org

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Have attached
1. an updated mindMap instance to use for test data
2. its gmf editor file
3. and a set of simple example ocl queries

Please note:
My OCL skills are not very acute and so are not quite up to the level
necessary to weave together sensible queries for this very (too??)
abstract mindmap model. In order to do so one would need to use nested
ocl expressions to first capture relationship source and targets in
order to follow the edges from node to node. Ugh!

Anyone knows ocl well enough to craft us a couple of nested ocl queries??

As an alternative I suggest we abandon the mindmap metamodel and just
use the perennially favorite EXTLibrary metamodel for our testing
purposes instead.

kind regards,
John



John E. Conlon wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> While I now understand the mindmap model structure, I am not too sure
> about the use cases for these mindmap elements. This model is not much
> like the other mindmap software that I have worked with.
>
> Nevertheless I created a mindmap model called oda4Emf.mindmap and a
> mindmap gmf diagram oda4Emf.mmd. These files are attached.
>
> Note: While the contents may have some relationship to the project of
> creating a ODA 4 EMF, the actual content was just created to fill the
> need for test data.
>
> As mentioned above I just sort of winged it so this model may contain
> some usage mistakes that need correcting. Like I said, I really don't
> understand the use cases for the different elements of the model.
>
> Do you think that this mindmap model may present too unusual model for
> the report writers?
>
> cheers,
> John
>
>
>
> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>> Sure thing! I'd slowed down a bit working on it, but was just easing
>> back into development. Could still use some good test data--if you'd
>> want to jump in that'd be a good place. I believe I have a basic
>> driver working but I don't have much for the UI yet.
>>
>> Someone else has contacted me about helping on the project but we were
>> just getting started discussing how best to collaborate. Since our
>> goal is to donate the code (but that takes a while, from what I hear)
>> we need a place to park until the process is complete.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> John E. Conlon wrote:
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> I've been a sleep at the wheel - just now checked the dtp mail list
>>> and saw your Ecore threads. (Had been watching EMF and Birt. DUH.)
>>>
>>> Do you still need MindMap data??
>>>
>>> Is there anything else I can do to help?
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>> John Conlon
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What
>>>> I most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be
>>>> willing to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model
>>>> as mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>>>
>>>> Bugzilla entry:
>>>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Model:
>>>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>


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filename="ODATestDataQueries"

-- The following OCL Queries use the Document Root as the context

-- List all the resources
self.map.resources

-- List the names and emails of all the resources
self.map.resources -> collect(
r: Resource | Tuple {
name: String = r.name,
email: String = r.email

}
)

-- List all the relations
self.map.relations


-- List the label, the source, and the target Topics of all the relations
self.map.relations -> collect(
r: Relationship | Tuple {
label: String = r.label,
source: Topic = r.source,
target: Topic = r.target

}
)


-- List the label, the source, and the target names of all the relations of
-- eclipse magazines
self.map.relations -> select(label='eclipse magazines') -> collect(
r: Relationship | Tuple {
label: String = r.label,
source: String = r.source.name,
target: String = r.target.name

}
)

-- List all the rootTopics
self.map.rootTopics

-- List the label, the source, and the target names of all the relations of
-- eclipse magazines
self.map.rootTopics -> collect(
r: Topic | Tuple {
label: String = r.label,
source: String = r.source.name,
target: String = r.target.name

}
)

-- List all the names and dates for the rootTopics
self.map.rootTopics -> collect(
r: Topic | Tuple {
name: String = r.name,
startDate: Date = r.startDate,
endDate: Date = r.endDate
}
)

-- List all the names and dates for rootTopics with a startDate
self.map.rootTopics -> select(not startDate.oclIsUndefined()) -> collect(
r: Topic | Tuple {
name: String = r.name,
startDate: Date = r.startDate,
endDate: Date = r.endDate
}
)

--------------090300070508000101040007--
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #588734 is a reply to message #32918] Wed, 28 November 2007 11:41 Go to previous message
Philipp W. Kutter is currently offline Philipp W. Kutter
Messages: 301
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi, Jeff.
As mentioned, we need an Ecore driver for Birt too.

Do you still need help? Is there already something to test?

Best, Philipp

Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be willing
> to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model as mentioned
> in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>
> Bugzilla entry:
> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>
>
> Model:
> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #588746 is a reply to message #39152] Wed, 28 November 2007 13:02 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
Messages: 26130
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Philipp,

Jeff tends to hang out on IRC's #eclipse-modeling so you might try
chatting with him there. He's asimino, or some spelling variation of
that. It think it would be a very valuable contribution if this work
resulted in being able to feed EMF model data into BIRT. I could
imagine a great many uses for that...


Philipp W. Kutter wrote:
> Hi, Jeff.
> As mentioned, we need an Ecore driver for Birt too.
>
> Do you still need help? Is there already something to test?
>
> Best, Philipp
>
> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
>> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be
>> willing to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model
>> as mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>
>> Bugzilla entry:
>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>
>>
>> Model:
>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
Re: Help with Ecore ODA Driver - Need MindMap data [message #588754 is a reply to message #39183] Wed, 28 November 2007 17:00 Go to previous message
Philipp W. Kutter is currently offline Philipp W. Kutter
Messages: 301
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi, Ed.
I'll see whether I manage to get hooked to IRC....

For my case: I committed to one of our clients that we get Birt
reporting running over his EMF data, we adviced him to build.

I wonder if CDO would be a good intermediate technology too. I am
thinking of looking at Birt's report types, and then create a mapping
model from EMF to these report types, and then drive the
parameterization of Birt along these mapping models. Birt would
then think it accesses a normal DB, and all the logic is in the
interpreter of the mapping model. This may have as advantage, that it
may allow to connect different reporting solutions.

On the other hand, if we can contribute to Jeff's work, and then take
advantage of this, I would like this too.

Best, Philipp


Ed Merks wrote:
> Philipp,
>
> Jeff tends to hang out on IRC's #eclipse-modeling so you might try
> chatting with him there. He's asimino, or some spelling variation of
> that. It think it would be a very valuable contribution if this work
> resulted in being able to feed EMF model data into BIRT. I could
> imagine a great many uses for that...
>
>
> Philipp W. Kutter wrote:
>> Hi, Jeff.
>> As mentioned, we need an Ecore driver for Birt too.
>>
>> Do you still need help? Is there already something to test?
>>
>> Best, Philipp
>>
>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>> I had several offers to help with work on an Ecore ODA driver. What I
>>> most need right now is more robust test data. Would someone be
>>> willing to produce some sample data conforming to the MindMap model
>>> as mentioned in the Bugzilla entry for this feature request?
>>>
>>> Bugzilla entry:
>>> < https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132958&que ry_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=_ _open__>
>>>
>>>
>>> Model:
>>> < http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.gmf/exa mples/org.eclipse.gmf.examples.mindmap/model/mindmap.ecore?r evision=1.1&root=Modeling_Project>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff
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