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| Re: RFC: Eclipse does Paypal? [message #560643 is a reply to message #7754] |
Tue, 28 August 2007 13:34  |
 Ed Merks
Messages: 24688
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Chris,
I agree that it seems odd for a non-profit organization to host
advertisement. I can imagine the adds for NetBeans already! :-p
Chris Aniszczyk wrote:
> Hrmmm, I don't know how to be tasteful with the ads... I don't know of
> many open source projects that employ this approach. However, there
> are some that seek donations...
>
> http://www.debian.org/donations
> http://www.gentoo.org
>
> Mozilla.org has no mention of donations...
>
> Cheers,
>
> ~ Chris
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| Re: RFC: Eclipse does Paypal? [message #560650 is a reply to message #7774] |
Wed, 29 August 2007 08:59 |
Donald Smith
Messages: 14
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But in fact, with the direction of the board, we have been running Google
ads on Eclipse properties for over 6 months -- you see the reports monthly
in your KPI's. Check out EclipsePluginCentral.com - proof Google ads can
be quite tastefully placed. And it is very easy to weed out inappropriate
ads, so no visual studio ads, etc.
As someone pointed out to me this morning -- the value of the ads really
isn't so much about the money - it's about leveraging alternatives for
increasing the visibility of Eclipse-based products and technologies on
www.eclipse.org.
Adsense has a lot of stuff built into it that makes is quite a nice option:
Fairness
Auction system and randomness
Applicability (making sure the right links are on the right pages)
Looks for relevance on the page to associate with the right
Keeping up to date
Links are generated automatically in real time
Technology
Javascript easy to embed in pages
Unobtrusiveness
AdSense offers lots of layout flexibility
- Don
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| Re: RFC: Eclipse does Paypal? [message #560659 is a reply to message #7795] |
Wed, 29 August 2007 09:30 |
Ed Merks
Messages: 24688
Registered: July 2009 |
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Don,
I must admit they are so tasteful I would hardly notice them. We really
should reconsider. More money can always be put to good use and Eclipse
would be a good place for commercial vendors to advertise their cool
Eclipse applications. Sure Eclipse is about free software, but it's
also about creating a commercially viable infrastructure, so we ought to
be more open minded about this. As long as these ads don't popup, don't
make sounds---computers are generally meant to be seen and not
heard---and don't contain offensive content, they seem innocuous.
I'll try to bring up the paypal issue and this related issue at the next
board meeting.
Donald Smith wrote:
> But in fact, with the direction of the board, we have been running
> Google ads on Eclipse properties for over 6 months -- you see the
> reports monthly in your KPI's. Check out EclipsePluginCentral.com -
> proof Google ads can be quite tastefully placed. And it is very easy
> to weed out inappropriate ads, so no visual studio ads, etc.
>
> As someone pointed out to me this morning -- the value of the ads
> really isn't so much about the money - it's about leveraging
> alternatives for increasing the visibility of Eclipse-based products
> and technologies on www.eclipse.org.
>
> Adsense has a lot of stuff built into it that makes is quite a nice
> option:
>
> Fairness
> Auction system and randomness
> Applicability (making sure the right links are on the right pages)
> Looks for relevance on the page to associate with the right Keeping up
> to date
> Links are generated automatically in real time
> Technology
> Javascript easy to embed in pages
> Unobtrusiveness
> AdSense offers lots of layout flexibility
>
> - Don
>
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| Re: RFC: Eclipse does Paypal? [message #560668 is a reply to message #7795] |
Wed, 29 August 2007 10:32 |
Chris Aniszczyk
Messages: 672
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Donald, if you open a bug against this on the website and with some
possible layout screenshots it would be interesting to see how it would
look like. At least it will get the discussion out of this newsgroup.
Cheers,
~ Chris
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| Re: RFC: Eclipse does Paypal? [message #560678 is a reply to message #7812] |
Fri, 31 August 2007 16:26 |
Pascal Rapicault
Messages: 440
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Senior Member |
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And also if we needed more money we could get all the committers to click on
the ad once in a while from their home computers :-) Or even have bots...
Well, we now have illimited budget!
"Ed Merks" <merks@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:fb3sec$779$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Don,
>
> I must admit they are so tasteful I would hardly notice them. We really
> should reconsider. More money can always be put to good use and Eclipse
> would be a good place for commercial vendors to advertise their cool
> Eclipse applications. Sure Eclipse is about free software, but it's also
> about creating a commercially viable infrastructure, so we ought to be
> more open minded about this. As long as these ads don't popup, don't make
> sounds---computers are generally meant to be seen and not heard---and
> don't contain offensive content, they seem innocuous.
>
> I'll try to bring up the paypal issue and this related issue at the next
> board meeting.
>
>
> Donald Smith wrote:
>> But in fact, with the direction of the board, we have been running Google
>> ads on Eclipse properties for over 6 months -- you see the reports
>> monthly in your KPI's. Check out EclipsePluginCentral.com - proof Google
>> ads can be quite tastefully placed. And it is very easy to weed out
>> inappropriate ads, so no visual studio ads, etc.
>>
>> As someone pointed out to me this morning -- the value of the ads really
>> isn't so much about the money - it's about leveraging alternatives for
>> increasing the visibility of Eclipse-based products and technologies on
>> www.eclipse.org.
>>
>> Adsense has a lot of stuff built into it that makes is quite a nice
>> option:
>>
>> Fairness
>> Auction system and randomness
>> Applicability (making sure the right links are on the right pages)
>> Looks for relevance on the page to associate with the right Keeping up to
>> date
>> Links are generated automatically in real time
>> Technology
>> Javascript easy to embed in pages
>> Unobtrusiveness
>> AdSense offers lots of layout flexibility
>>
>> - Don
>>
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| Re: RFC: Eclipse does Paypal? [message #560682 is a reply to message #7854] |
Fri, 31 August 2007 16:57 |
Ed Merks
Messages: 24688
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Pascal,
You've unveiled our evil plan in public! O:-) I was going to click
on an ad every time I hit refresh in Thunderbird, but now my IP will be
closely monitored!
Pascal Rapicault wrote:
> And also if we needed more money we could get all the committers to click on
> the ad once in a while from their home computers :-) Or even have bots...
> Well, we now have illimited budget!
>
> "Ed Merks" <merks@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:fb3sec$779$1@build.eclipse.org...
>
>> Don,
>>
>> I must admit they are so tasteful I would hardly notice them. We really
>> should reconsider. More money can always be put to good use and Eclipse
>> would be a good place for commercial vendors to advertise their cool
>> Eclipse applications. Sure Eclipse is about free software, but it's also
>> about creating a commercially viable infrastructure, so we ought to be
>> more open minded about this. As long as these ads don't popup, don't make
>> sounds---computers are generally meant to be seen and not heard---and
>> don't contain offensive content, they seem innocuous.
>>
>> I'll try to bring up the paypal issue and this related issue at the next
>> board meeting.
>>
>>
>> Donald Smith wrote:
>>
>>> But in fact, with the direction of the board, we have been running Google
>>> ads on Eclipse properties for over 6 months -- you see the reports
>>> monthly in your KPI's. Check out EclipsePluginCentral.com - proof Google
>>> ads can be quite tastefully placed. And it is very easy to weed out
>>> inappropriate ads, so no visual studio ads, etc.
>>>
>>> As someone pointed out to me this morning -- the value of the ads really
>>> isn't so much about the money - it's about leveraging alternatives for
>>> increasing the visibility of Eclipse-based products and technologies on
>>> www.eclipse.org.
>>>
>>> Adsense has a lot of stuff built into it that makes is quite a nice
>>> option:
>>>
>>> Fairness
>>> Auction system and randomness
>>> Applicability (making sure the right links are on the right pages)
>>> Looks for relevance on the page to associate with the right Keeping up to
>>> date
>>> Links are generated automatically in real time
>>> Technology
>>> Javascript easy to embed in pages
>>> Unobtrusiveness
>>> AdSense offers lots of layout flexibility
>>>
>>> - Don
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
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Pascal,<br>
<br>
You've unveiled our evil plan in public!<span class="moz-smiley-s14"><span>
O:-) </span></span> I was going to click on an ad every time I
hit refresh in Thunderbird, but now my IP will be closely monitored!<br>
<br>
<br>
Pascal Rapicault wrote:
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<pre wrap="">And also if we needed more money we could get all the committers to click on
the ad once in a while from their home computers :-) Or even have bots...
Well, we now have illimited budget!
"Ed Merks" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:merks@ca.ibm.com"><merks@ca.ibm.com></a> wrote in message
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<pre wrap="">Don,
I must admit they are so tasteful I would hardly notice them. We really
should reconsider. More money can always be put to good use and Eclipse
would be a good place for commercial vendors to advertise their cool
Eclipse applications. Sure Eclipse is about free software, but it's also
about creating a commercially viable infrastructure, so we ought to be
more open minded about this. As long as these ads don't popup, don't make
sounds---computers are generally meant to be seen and not heard---and
don't contain offensive content, they seem innocuous.
I'll try to bring up the paypal issue and this related issue at the next
board meeting.
Donald Smith wrote:
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<pre wrap="">But in fact, with the direction of the board, we have been running Google
ads on Eclipse properties for over 6 months -- you see the reports
monthly in your KPI's. Check out EclipsePluginCentral.com - proof Google
ads can be quite tastefully placed. And it is very easy to weed out
inappropriate ads, so no visual studio ads, etc.
As someone pointed out to me this morning -- the value of the ads really
isn't so much about the money - it's about leveraging alternatives for
increasing the visibility of Eclipse-based products and technologies on
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.eclipse.org">www.eclipse.org</a>.
Adsense has a lot of stuff built into it that makes is quite a nice
option:
Fairness
Auction system and randomness
Applicability (making sure the right links are on the right pages)
Looks for relevance on the page to associate with the right Keeping up to
date
Links are generated automatically in real time
Technology
Javascript easy to embed in pages
Unobtrusiveness
AdSense offers lots of layout flexibility
- Don
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