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[CDO] Can client listen for new objects added to server? [message #1001080]

Tue, 15 January 2013 20:16

Warwick Burrows
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Hi,

Is it possible to configure a listener on a CDO client that is alerted when new objects of the type its interested in are added to the CDO server from another client? I have one client that manages the creation and editing of my objects and another that's a read-only user of the objects. The read-only client needs to know when new objects are added so that it can update its list of available objects.

Thanks,
Warwick

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Re: [CDO] Can client listen for new objects added to server? [message #1001189 is a reply to message #1001080]

Wed, 16 January 2013 03:19

Eike Stepper
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Am 16.01.2013 02:16, schrieb Warwick Burrows: 
<blockquote cite="mid:kd4v1n$qe4$1@xxxxxxxxe.org" type="cite">Hi,
 
 
Is it possible to configure a listener on a CDO client that is
alerted when new objects of the type its interested in are added
to the CDO server from another client? I have one client that
manages the creation and editing of my objects and another that's
a read-only user of the objects. The read-only client needs to
know when new objects are added so that it can update its list of
available objects.
 
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That has been asked on 09-18-2009 and I fear not much has changed in
this regard. The reason is that we don't have this piece of
information on the client in all cases. If fired the
CDOViewInvalidationEvent is always fired from
CDOViewImpl.invalidate() and calls this invalidate() method occur
for one of 4 reasons: 
 
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1) remote commits while session.passiveUpdatesEnabled==true 
2) local commits 
3) manual refreshs while session.passiveUpdatesEnabled==false 
4) change of the view target 
 
Only in the first two cases the newObjects info is available. We
probably don't need/want it in the fourth cases. But there's still
the third one which is, conceptually, not that different from the
first one. It's a little like suspending the continuous, automatic
passive updates and doing active, batched updates instead from time
to time. This can only be efficient because the client asks the
server to send deltas for the currently loaded (viewed) objects. 
 
I wonder if we finally should try to provide the newObjects by
*some* means. As several people on the older thread already argued
this piece of information doesn't fit well with the original purpose
of the CDOViewInvalidationEvent (provide change info for
loaded/viewed objects). The only thing that speaks for this
particular event type is the delivery time, if compared to the time
the CDOSessionInvalidationEvent is delivered (which *does* carry the
newObjects info). 
 
Any thoughts? 
 
Cheers 
/Eike 
 
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Re: [CDO] Can client listen for new objects added to server? [message #1001467 is a reply to message #1001189]

Wed, 16 January 2013 14:21

Warwick Burrows
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Thanks Eike. Now I know what to look for (CDOViewInvalidationEvent) I will search the forums for other references to it and gather more information. A quick look indicates that I can get object addition notifications if I set passiveUpdatesEnabled (as you've suggested) and register a listener. This seems like an "active" update. Is it called "passive" because I need to do something to pull the new and changed objects into the client cache?

BTW, it looks like your posted was posted 5 times to this thread in response to my question and in HTML which is hard to read. Is there a problem with the eclipse forums?

Thanks,
Warwick

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Re: [CDO] Can client listen for new objects added to server? [message #1001644 is a reply to message #1001467]

Thu, 17 January 2013 00:37

Eike Stepper
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Registered: July 2009

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Am 16.01.2013 20:21, schrieb Warwick Burrows:
> Thanks Eike. Now I know what to look for (CDOViewInvalidationEvent) I will search the forums for other references to
> it and gather more information. A quick look indicates that I can get object addition notifications if I set
> passiveUpdatesEnabled (as you've suggested) and register a listener. This seems like an "active" update. Is it called
> "passive" because I need to do something to pull the new and changed objects into the client cache?
Not sure what you mean. It's called "passive" because it causes model updates in/from a background thread that
represents the server.

> BTW, it looks like your posted was posted 5 times to this thread in response to my question and in HTML which is hard
> to read. Is there a problem with the eclipse forums?
Yes, the forum software is IMHO totally broken. And that for years. Please take a minute and submit a bugzilla:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Community

Cheers
/Eike

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Re: [CDO] Can client listen for new objects added to server? [message #1002041 is a reply to message #1001644]

Thu, 17 January 2013 15:09

Warwick Burrows
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Sure. I've opened bugzilla 398445 for the multiple posting of replies in html.

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